tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post5128721124124304084..comments2023-10-30T11:46:43.284+00:00Comments on Musings of the Cosmic Calamari: The Dying Of The ShiteSpaceSquidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09760939592584995876noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post-68452012860373647492015-02-25T19:21:35.083+00:002015-02-25T19:21:35.083+00:00That sounds distressingly likely, actually.That sounds distressingly likely, actually.SpaceSquidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760939592584995876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post-38238035793009873182015-02-25T17:42:56.640+00:002015-02-25T17:42:56.640+00:00Well, I'm not whose place it would be to say s...Well, I'm not whose place it would be to say such things, but I will certainly take a position on it, and that position is that the current situation is uniformly better than, say, 30 years ago.<br /><br />I also agree with your sentiment that we are winning but we haven't won. I guess I'm worried that the "rate of winning" is slowing down, because the problems are less in your face.Brutal Snakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17333269296606203251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post-39830842265052872412015-02-25T17:01:26.771+00:002015-02-25T17:01:26.771+00:00Just to be clear, I do know that the covert bigot ...Just to be clear, I do know that the covert bigot is still a major problem; that's why I said we're winning, not that we'd won. And like I say, I'm entirely down with anyone whose reaction here is to be royally pissed off that this kind of naked ignorant hostility still exists. But I see a positive here, and wanted to celebrate it. <br /><br />Of course, if one wanted to argue that moving bigotry underground has actually made things <i>worse</i>, well, it's not my place to say.SpaceSquidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760939592584995876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post-86625107682866133162015-02-25T15:20:52.088+00:002015-02-25T15:20:52.088+00:00I think you are in one way right; a lot of overt h...I think you are in one way right; a lot of overt homophobia has largely disappeared. But covert homophobia is definitely still a thing, for example, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx5KZMBuFOE" rel="nofollow">this interview</a>, where the writer of Empire explains how, when they screen tested a gay kiss on their show the audience reaction plummeted. When asked why afterwards, they all just looked embarrassedly at their shoes.<br /><br />FWIW this is not a problem unique to the LGBT+ communities, but also with regards to race and gender as well, where overt forms have become much less common but covert forms still definitely exist (and almost certainly for other minorities as well). It's frustrating, because people then easily fall into the trap of believing, e.g. that there is no sexism any more, rather than seeing that although very few people are actually advocating for all women to please get back into the kitchen, there are nonetheless serious cultural issues to deal with. /rantBrutal Snakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17333269296606203251noreply@blogger.com