tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post5978156632488811580..comments2023-10-30T11:46:43.284+00:00Comments on Musings of the Cosmic Calamari: From Autum To SpringSpaceSquidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09760939592584995876noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post-43543378365125446382009-03-04T23:07:00.000+00:002009-03-04T23:07:00.000+00:00I would imagine that anyone who both reads the ser...I would imagine that anyone who both reads the series and watches the adaptation will, by 2012, be overcome by how unrelentingly depressing it is, and committed ritual suicide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post-26281505208743146612009-03-04T16:55:00.000+00:002009-03-04T16:55:00.000+00:00Oh, I agree that intermittent seasons will cause i...Oh, I agree that intermittent seasons will cause issues with regards to the consistency and pacing of the series; and I hope that they compensate for it. I'm just not terribly optimistic that they will.<BR/><BR/>But then, since I'm all but convinced it won't last beyond two seasons anyway, it doesn't worry me too much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post-85414727246252854992009-03-04T16:37:00.000+00:002009-03-04T16:37:00.000+00:00Curb and Flight are a bit different though, since ...<I>Curb</I> and <I>Flight</I> are a bit different though, since they have a tiny main cast, including one or two people who are also on the writing team.<BR/><BR/><I>The Wire</I> I'm not sure about either, mainly because a) it was serialised, but wasn't exactly building to anything beyond each season's finale (which always left things open because, hey, that's life), and b) the way it rotated people in and out of the spotlight may have made actor committment less on an issue. I'm not sure how <I>The Sopranos</I> and <I>Rome</I> worked (to the extent the latter ever did, I saw a couple of episodes and really didn't like it) but I seem to remember the former also being of the same ilk as <I>The Wire</I>, ongoing plots but no years-long build-up.<BR/><BR/>I'd be much more concerned about the problems inherent in a series that has to take a year off and come back with the exact same main characters (of which, again, there will be many) in order to not have entire strands disappear.SpaceSquidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760939592584995876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post-60288739419807972912009-03-04T16:17:00.000+00:002009-03-04T16:17:00.000+00:00I didn't say I was worried about it :-)I was think...I didn't say I was <I>worried</I> about it :-)<BR/><BR/>I was thinking of shows like <I>The Sopranos</I>, <I>The Wire</I>, <I>Rome</I>, <I>Big Love</I>, <I>Curb Your Enthusiasm</I>, <I>Flight of the Conchords</I>, etc.<BR/><BR/>I acknowledge that the main problem with such an approach would be the rapidly advancing ages of the child and teenage characters, but the realities of such a complicated production may mean that they have little choice in terms of the time needed to create an entire season.<BR/><BR/>I think the actors are going to have to have pretty flexible contracts anyway, if they're intending to use the same actors for a minimum of seven years, with an unclear end in sight...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post-38277663826651894392009-03-04T14:48:00.000+00:002009-03-04T14:48:00.000+00:00As regards the passing of time between seasons, I'...As regards the passing of time between seasons, I'd be surprised if AsoIaF could get away with such. With a large cast of characters, trying to corral so many actors into such flexible contracts would be supremely difficult. I'd be interested to know what other shows you're thinking of.<BR/><BR/>You are of course right that the chances of the show getting to the point I'm describing is fairly low. I'm just pointing out that even the absolute best case scenario is, well, a wee bit rubbish.<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't worry about missing <I>Who</I>, most of it is shit.SpaceSquidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09760939592584995876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4505812700967330296.post-16859056377027836022009-03-04T14:02:00.000+00:002009-03-04T14:02:00.000+00:00First, a brief correction: the pilot for HBO's ada...First, a brief correction: the <I>pilot</I> for HBO's adaptation of ASoiaF will commence filming in October. A full season hasn't been ordered yet. If it is, I doubt we'll know until late this year, and I would think that it will still be a while before we see the final product; I'm guessing this adds at least a year to your current estimates (as the Winter is Coming blog points out, we're probably not going to see the show until the autumn of 2010 at the earliest).<BR/><BR/>In addition, HBO seem to be somewhat looser in their adhering to timetables for their series than would perhaps be expected for the networks; it's not unknown, or even particularly rare, for up to two years to pass between seasons.<BR/><BR/>At any rate, I can see why you might be concerned about this, but I'm pretty much assuming that this series won't last beyond its second season. The nearest analogous show that HBO have tackled was <I>Rome</I>, and that got cancelled after two seasons due to its vast expense; and <I>that</I> was while the economy appeared fairly robust. Factor in that they'll apparently be filming in Ireland as the euro is in ascendancy over the dollar (admittedly, economics is a bunch of contradictory mumbo-jumbo to me, so clearly things could turn around drastically in the interim for all I know), and I'm extremely sceptical of its long-term prospects.<BR/><BR/>I think that the post on the SFX forum is pretty speculative about alternative endings. I keep fairly close tabs on the situation, and I can't recall Martin ever mentioning this. I might be wrong, but I'd like it if someone could provide a link.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, you're right; the best solution should HBO not put on the brakes before they hit the wall built by Martin's faithless muse is to not watch the whole thing until the last book has been consumed. Which, since I've got so damn much to watch in the interim as it is, should not be too much of a problem (hell, I'm behind by two and a bit seasons of <I>Doctor Who</I> as it is...)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com